Thursday, January 3, 2013

Questions and Comments 2013 to Bishop of Sabah



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From: Joshua Kong <jknow823@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Prior Questions / comments for All Saints’ Cathedral
To: Albert Vun <vunalbert@gmail.com>
Cc: Rev Thiam Choy <thiamchoy@hotmail.com>, pastorchak@hotmail.com, Rosalind Liew <rosalind912@hotmail.com>, fui_lee@streamyx.com

Joshua Y. C. Kong, P. O Box 11923,  88821 Kota Kinabalu, Sabah    jknow823@gmail.com  013-8394513

1 January,  2013

The Acting Dean / Dean,
All Saints’ Cathedral,
Kota Kinabalu.    Cc :  YTC and CSF       RL

Dear Rev Acting Dean / Dean,

Re: Prior Questions / comments for All Saints’ Cathedral to be presented at the AGM on 24th March  2013.

I am asking a range of questions early because of the new Dean coming to ASC and who I believe would not be in the position to answer all the questions and issues to be raised at the AGM and any “no answer’ cannot be accepted and be subject to Police Report later.

So to avoid unpleasant scenario, please help all to get good and true answers now.  If the answers given now would reduce the volume of my questions and comments at the AGM 2013. 

Q1.      Employees and staff of ASC
Please provide a list of employees /staff / clergies / pastors of ASC since  2006 together with private addresses and NRIC for the purpose of vetting as it is alleged that at least one priest of the ADOS is a project IC holder.  Would appreciate the relevant staff records.  I am asking since 2006 so that we can be clear that all personnel although engaged by the ADOS have worked in ASC.  

 Q1.1  Please also provide a list of priests and pastors who have resigned having served in ASC. [new item]

Q1.2    Bonus paid in all since  2006
Please provide a list of all personnel paid bonus in ASC since 2006 and the amount so paid..

Q2.      Membership list of  members in Roll who can vote at AGM.
Q2.1    Please provide a copy of the Roll list as pasted in the notice board at the front lobby and  indicate those who attended the last AGM 2012 and those handed out with ballot paper for the two resolutions.

Q2.2    Please provide a full list of names of those who attended the AGM 2012  in the minute thereof.

Q3.      Minutes of AGM 2012 held on 1st April, 2012
Q3.1    A lot of questions were raised in the AGM and please make sure all the questions are recorded in the minute otherwise the minutes would be challenged and  the matters arising  would take a lot of time because we can remember the
Questions and issues raised then.  The matters would need to be reflected on the impact thereof in reports and minute and affairs of 2012.

Q3.2    The minute must contain the attendees.
Q3.3    The minute must be signed by the illegal Chairman unless the Acting Dean/ Dean can show otherwise.
Q3.4    The minute must include the irregularities as raised in the AGM.
Q3.5    The minute must inform the members why the Chairman was missing in action.
Q5.6    The minute must be available two weeks before the AGM.

Q4.      Constitution of ASC
Q4.1    A Constitution in sufficient copies must be made available for reference.

Q5.      PCC meeting and minutes
Q5.1    The Agenda and Notices of all PCC meetings must be disclosed in the Annual Report
Q5.2    The Minutes of the PCC meeting must be made available for scrutiny before AGM because the new Dean would not be able to answer the queries.
Q5.3    The quorum of the PCC laity members excluding pastors and the quorum of the clergies and pastor must be assessed separately.  Say if there are 10 or 15 elected members, the quorum must be based on that and if no quorum then the meeting cannot be held.  The pastors and clergies are not elected and they must not dominate any PCC meeting.  We need to address this in a resolution of the composition of the PCC.
Q5.4    The PCC minutes must be ready within three days of the meeting and circulated to all PCC elected members whether present or absent.  Don’t wait till the next meeting for the previous meeting minute to be distributed.
Q5.5    Unelected members of the PCC should not be allowed to vote for vested interest and an issue for a resolution at AGM for good governance.
Q5.6    The structure of sub-committees if formed should consider the elected and unelected members in check and balance composition also an issue for a resolution at the AGM..

Q6.      Power of Rector or delegated power of Dean to the Rector/priest
Q6.1    Is there any guideline on the delegated power of the Dean to the Rector/any priest?
Q6.2    Can such delegated power to include chairing PCC meeting when there is a deputy Chairman to avoid conflict and illegality?
Q6.3    Can the delegated power include signing chaques?
Q6.4    Is such delegated power done in writing?  If so, please publish it and post it in a notice or Sunday bulletin.
Q6.5    It is a mockery if such delegated power is abused . 
Q6.6    The Rector wrote in the ASC Sunday bulletin of 4th November, 2012 that “In the Paroochial Church Committee (PCC) meeting last week, a few decisions were made……A committee will be formed to re-examine the church’s constitution ..”  Who was the Chairman of this PCC meeting?  Can the Rector show us the minute?    I remember in the Dean Koo’s time, I raised a resolution at an ASC AGM asking for amendments to the Constitution but was rejected for it is the prerogative of the Bishop.
Q6.7    If it is the prerogative of the Bishop, then why the PCC if not chaired by the Bishop can do this when the AGM has higher power to see to that such amendments of the Constitution?
Q6.8    If the Bishop did chair the meeting, and such decision was made, is the Bishop gone awry now that he finds the stupid excuse to amend the Constitution when it is his responsibility for justice?

Q7.      Financial status of ASC of about RM2.3m income when last year was RM2.8m
Q7.1    How would this affect the credibility and financial standing of the ADOS and ASC?
Q7.2    How do you balance out the budgeted expenditure without affecting the direction of ASC?
Q7.3    ASC is the mother church in Sabah and it is not behind St Patrick Church.  Please address this.
Q7.4    Please produce a report to address the decline of ASC in financial status.

Q8.      House of Celebration Project and Fund raising – 60% by ASC.
Q8.1    Please prepare a full report since the Fund was raised.
Q8.2    Why ASC is responsible for fund raising and yet FCC website directs donation to the St Patrick’s Church account in its website?  Why not direct all donation to HOC to ASC / ADOS bank account?
Q8.3    The Full Report must show income and expenditure of the fund so far collected.
Q8.4    How much had been collected by ASC and ADOS respectively on the HOC fund and how much had been incurred for the project?

Q9.      Vehicle records of All Saints’ Cathedral
Q9.1    Who keep the registration cards of the vehicles owned by ASC?
Q9.2    Does ASC own the SA8222T – a Toyota Land cruiser in 2009?
Q9.3    How did ASC own the SA8222T?
Q9.4    How was the transfer transaction done at the JPJ?
Q9.5    What was the consideration of SA8222T and how was it procured?
Q9.6    Was the SA8222T shown in the ASC account ended 31. December, 2009?
Q9.7    Was the ASC honorary treasurer and auditor aware of this SA8222T?
Q9.8    Why ASC need such a Toyota landcruier SA8222T ?
Q9.9    Is SA8222T properly used and maintained being an old vehicle?
Q9.10  Who is assigned to care for SA8222T?
Q9.11  Are there too many vehicles in ASC and please prepare a full report for such assets?
Q9.12  Was this SA8222T minuted at PCC meeting and if so show the minute?

Q10     New Sulaman Anglican Church
Q10.1  Is it part of the concept of the sister church of ASC as there are now about 12 sister churches
Nurtured by ASC for decades?
Q10.2  If it is a sister church of ASC, was the decision to purchase the shoplot for a church made in
ASC PCC meeting? If done in PCC meeting, please show the minute to indicate the sharing of financial outlay?
Q10.3  If it is a sister church of ASC, how much was the financial share to the cost of the new church?
Q10.4  If it is a sister church of ASC, how is the relationship/administration supervised from ASC?
Q10.5  The acting Dean/dean declared that ASC contributed RM70,000 to the new Sulaman Anglican Church, please show with document how this RM70,000 is disbursed? Every Ringgit from ASC must be accounted for.  Was it paid in cash or in Cheque?  Does Sulaman Anglican Church has a bank account?
Q10.6  Sulaman Anglican Church is so near to the Christ The King and so how is the relationship/connection between both this churches?
Q10.7  Please show proof of early attendance of the church at the 5th Floor to justify such a massive outflow of fund and not even manned by a priest but a questioned pastor- a single mother of sort?
Q10.8  When was this church actually approved by the ASC and the Standing Committee? Show proof.


This is my first instalment of 10 questions with many parts.

This would assist the ADOS and ASC to be in good governance and transparent to move forward with the latest movements in transition.

Please reply within two week by 14th January, 2013.

This mutual effort would shorten the ASC AGM 2013 on 24th March, 2013 by at least two hours.

Joshua Y. C. Kong



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