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Date: Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Prior Questions / comments for All Saints’ Cathedral
To: Albert Vun <vunalbert@gmail.com>
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Joshua
Y. C. Kong, P. O Box 11923, 88821 Kota Kinabalu, Sabah jknow823@gmail.com
013-8394513
1
January, 2013
The
Acting Dean / Dean,
All
Saints’ Cathedral,
Kota
Kinabalu. Cc : YTC and
CSF RL
Dear
Rev Acting Dean / Dean,
Re:
Prior Questions / comments for All Saints’ Cathedral to be presented at the AGM
on 24th March 2013.
I
am asking a range of questions early because of the new Dean coming to ASC and
who I believe would not be in the position to answer all the questions and
issues to be raised at the AGM and any “no answer’ cannot be accepted and be
subject to Police Report later.
So
to avoid unpleasant scenario, please help all to get good and true answers
now. If the answers given now would reduce the volume of my questions and
comments at the AGM 2013.
Q1.
Employees and staff of ASC
Please
provide a list of employees /staff / clergies / pastors of ASC since 2006
together with private addresses and NRIC for the purpose of vetting as it is
alleged that at least one priest of the ADOS is a project IC holder.
Would appreciate the relevant staff records. I am asking since 2006 so
that we can be clear that all personnel although engaged by the ADOS have
worked in ASC.
Q1.1 Please also provide a list of priests and
pastors who have resigned having served in ASC. [new item]
Q1.2
Bonus paid in all since 2006
Please
provide a list of all personnel paid bonus in ASC since 2006 and the amount so
paid..
Q2.
Membership list of members in Roll who can vote at AGM.
Q2.1
Please provide a copy of the Roll list as pasted in the notice board at the
front lobby and indicate those who attended the last AGM 2012 and those handed
out with ballot paper for the two resolutions.
Q2.2
Please provide a full list of names of those who attended the AGM 2012 in
the minute thereof.
Q3.
Minutes of AGM 2012 held on 1st April, 2012
Q3.1
A lot of questions were raised in the AGM and please make sure all the
questions are recorded in the minute otherwise the minutes would be challenged
and the matters arising would take a lot of time because we can
remember the
Questions
and issues raised then. The matters would need to be reflected on the
impact thereof in reports and minute and affairs of 2012.
Q3.2
The minute must contain the attendees.
Q3.3
The minute must be signed by the illegal Chairman unless the Acting Dean/ Dean
can show otherwise.
Q3.4
The minute must include the irregularities as raised in the AGM.
Q3.5
The minute must inform the members why the Chairman was missing in action.
Q5.6
The minute must be available two weeks before the AGM.
Q4.
Constitution of ASC
Q4.1
A Constitution in sufficient copies must be made available for reference.
Q5.
PCC meeting and minutes
Q5.1
The Agenda and Notices of all PCC meetings must be disclosed in the Annual
Report
Q5.2
The Minutes of the PCC meeting must be made available for scrutiny before AGM
because the new Dean would not be able to answer the queries.
Q5.3
The quorum of the PCC laity members excluding pastors and the quorum of the
clergies and pastor must be assessed separately. Say if there are 10 or
15 elected members, the quorum must be based on that and if no quorum then the
meeting cannot be held. The pastors and clergies are not elected and they
must not dominate any PCC meeting. We need to address this in a
resolution of the composition of the PCC.
Q5.4
The PCC minutes must be ready within three days of the meeting and circulated
to all PCC elected members whether present or absent. Don’t wait till the
next meeting for the previous meeting minute to be distributed.
Q5.5
Unelected members of the PCC should not be allowed to vote for vested interest
and an issue for a resolution at AGM for good governance.
Q5.6
The structure of sub-committees if formed should consider the elected and
unelected members in check and balance composition also an issue for a
resolution at the AGM..
Q6.
Power of Rector or delegated power of Dean to the Rector/priest
Q6.1
Is there any guideline on the delegated power of the Dean to the Rector/any
priest?
Q6.2
Can such delegated power to include chairing PCC meeting when there is a deputy
Chairman to avoid conflict and illegality?
Q6.3
Can the delegated power include signing chaques?
Q6.4
Is such delegated power done in writing? If so, please publish it and
post it in a notice or Sunday bulletin.
Q6.5
It is a mockery if such delegated power is abused .
Q6.6
The Rector wrote in the ASC Sunday bulletin of 4th November, 2012
that “In the Paroochial Church Committee (PCC) meeting last week, a few
decisions were made……A committee will be formed to re-examine the church’s
constitution ..” Who was the Chairman of this PCC meeting? Can the
Rector show us the minute? I remember in the Dean Koo’s time,
I raised a resolution at an ASC AGM asking for amendments to the Constitution
but was rejected for it is the prerogative of the Bishop.
Q6.7
If it is the prerogative of the Bishop, then why the PCC if not chaired by the
Bishop can do this when the AGM has higher power to see to that such amendments
of the Constitution?
Q6.8
If the Bishop did chair the meeting, and such decision was made, is the Bishop
gone awry now that he finds the stupid excuse to amend the Constitution when it
is his responsibility for justice?
Q7.
Financial status of ASC of about RM2.3m income when last year was RM2.8m
Q7.1
How would this affect the credibility and financial standing of the ADOS and
ASC?
Q7.2
How do you balance out the budgeted expenditure without affecting the direction
of ASC?
Q7.3
ASC is the mother church in Sabah and it is not behind St Patrick Church.
Please address this.
Q7.4
Please produce a report to address the decline of ASC in financial status.
Q8.
House of Celebration Project and Fund raising – 60% by ASC.
Q8.1
Please prepare a full report since the Fund was raised.
Q8.2
Why ASC is responsible for fund raising and yet FCC website directs donation to
the St Patrick’s Church account in its website? Why not direct all
donation to HOC to ASC / ADOS bank account?
Q8.3
The Full Report must show income and expenditure of the fund so far collected.
Q8.4
How much had been collected by ASC and ADOS respectively on the HOC fund and
how much had been incurred for the project?
Q9.
Vehicle records of All Saints’ Cathedral
Q9.1
Who keep the registration cards of the vehicles owned by ASC?
Q9.2
Does ASC own the SA8222T – a Toyota Land cruiser in 2009?
Q9.3
How did ASC own the SA8222T?
Q9.4
How was the transfer transaction done at the JPJ?
Q9.5
What was the consideration of SA8222T and how was it procured?
Q9.6
Was the SA8222T shown in the ASC account ended 31. December, 2009?
Q9.7
Was the ASC honorary treasurer and auditor aware of this SA8222T?
Q9.8
Why ASC need such a Toyota landcruier SA8222T ?
Q9.9
Is SA8222T properly used and maintained being an old vehicle?
Q9.10
Who is assigned to care for SA8222T?
Q9.11
Are there too many vehicles in ASC and please prepare a full report for such
assets?
Q9.12
Was this SA8222T minuted at PCC meeting and if so show the minute?
Q10
New Sulaman Anglican Church
Q10.1
Is it part of the concept of the sister church of ASC as there are now about 12
sister churches
Nurtured
by ASC for decades?
Q10.2
If it is a sister church of ASC, was the decision to purchase the shoplot for a
church made in
ASC
PCC meeting? If done in PCC meeting, please show the minute to indicate the
sharing of financial outlay?
Q10.3
If it is a sister church of ASC, how much was the financial share to the cost
of the new church?
Q10.4
If it is a sister church of ASC, how is the relationship/administration
supervised from ASC?
Q10.5
The acting Dean/dean declared that ASC contributed RM70,000 to the new Sulaman
Anglican Church, please show with document how this RM70,000 is disbursed? Every
Ringgit from ASC must be accounted for. Was it paid in cash or in
Cheque? Does Sulaman Anglican Church has a bank account?
Q10.6
Sulaman Anglican Church is so near to the Christ The King and so how is the
relationship/connection between both this churches?
Q10.7
Please show proof of early attendance of the church at the 5th Floor
to justify such a massive outflow of fund and not even manned by a priest but a
questioned pastor- a single mother of sort?
Q10.8
When was this church actually approved by the ASC and the Standing Committee?
Show proof.
This
is my first instalment of 10 questions with many parts.
This
would assist the ADOS and ASC to be in good governance and transparent to move
forward with the latest movements in transition.
Please
reply within two week by 14th January, 2013.
This
mutual effort would shorten the ASC AGM 2013 on 24th March, 2013 by
at least two hours.
Joshua
Y. C. Kong
All
questions are available here :- http://bishopgateinanglicansabah.blogspot.com/2013/01/questionscomments-for-asc-2013.html
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to the work of the Lord, because you know your labor in the Lord is not in
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Subject: Prior Questions/ comments for ASC (second portion)
To: Albert Vun
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All questions are available here :- http://bishopgateinanglicansabah.blogspot.com/2013/01/questionscomments-for-asc-2013.html
Joshua Y. C. Kong, P. O Box 11923, 88821 Kota Kinabalu, Sabah jknow823@gmail.com 013-8394513
2 January, 2013
The Acting Dean / Dean,
All Saints’ Cathedral,
Kota Kinabalu. Cc : YTC and CSF RL pastorchak@hotmail.com
Dear Rev Acting Dean / Dean,
Re: Prior Questions / comments for All Saints’ Cathedral to be presented at the AGM on 24th March 2013. (second instalment)
This is my Second instalment of another 14 questions with many parts making up 24 long questions..
This would assist the ADOS and ASC to be in good governance and transparent to move forward with the latest movements in transition.
Please reply within two weeks by 14th January, 2013.
This mutual effort would shorten the ASC AGM 2013 on 24th March, 2013 by at least another four hours in term of questions and replies LIVE.
11. Rangsit Anglican Outreach Center in Bangkok
11.1 who owns "Rangsit Anglican Outreach Center" in Bangkok – Anglican Diocese of Sabah or Singapore?
11.2 Since ASC has contributed much resources to this center, I want to know how much of the mission fund of ASC been diverted to RAOC?
11.3 It was reported that an unordained person was already performing the function of a priest before his challenged ordination on 29th August, 2012 in RAOC, may I have your comment for this unprecedented incident?...
12. Events and conferences done in ASC since 2006
12.1 Please provide a full list of the Events and conferences done in ASC since 2006 especially those participants have to pay a fee.
12.2 Were such fees paid into the bank account of ASC?
12.3 Were ASC paid a portion of the fee for the overheads? If so, please specify.
12.4 Did ASC pay any love gifts for those speakers invited to participate in these events? If so, please give figures.
12.5 Is it true such fees for ALL such events held at ASC premises were paid into ADOS bank account? If so, why?
13. Signatories to bank accounts
13.1 Please provide a list of the names of the signatories to the bank accounts of ASC since 2006 and the changes thereof.
13.2 If Rector YTC had signed some or all ASC cheques in 2012, please provide a list such as the payees, the amount paid and the purpose for those payments.
13.3 How many ASC cheques in 2012 and 2011 were paid without the signature of the Honorary Treasurer? Please provide a list such as payees, the amount paid and the purpose for those payments.
13.4 Would also provide a full list in the audited account of ASC for 2012 at the AGM 2013?
14. Sister churches of ASC around KK and beyond
14.1 ASC has been instrumental to the setting up of various sister churches in KK and beyond, please provide a list.
14.2 Please prepare a full report since 2006 for those sister churches including a financial statement for each sister church whether ASC provide any financial facilities or not in any particular year..
14.3 Would you agree that the sister churches would account for the annual Diocesan assessment through the knowledge of ASC?
14.4 Would you attach the financial report of each of the sister church in ASC’s annual report in 2012 for reference as ASC had provided the seed money initially.
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15. Deficits of ASC since 2006
ReplyDelete15.1 Please state the deficits of ASC since 2006 and explain why this has been happening.
15.2 Please explain what action has been done to minimize the increasing deficits since 2006.
15.3 How much is the estimated deficit for 2012 as the income of ASC has drastically declined?
15.4 How would the deficits of ASC have affected the cash flow of ASC vis-a-vis ADOS especially in 2012?
16. Audited accounts for 2012
16.1 Please have the audited account ready for distribution at least one week before the AGM 2013.
16.2 How would anyone be expected to digest and ask all the questions and make the proper comments when the bulky reports and accounts are distributed just less than one hour on AGM’s afternoon?
16.3 Please confirm that the audited account for the year ended 31st December, 2012 be approved by the PCC before the AGM and show us the minute of the PCC for this confirmation.
16.4 Please also provide full disclosure of all relevant items in the audited financial accounts.
17. Resolutions at AGM
17.1 Please distribute in church the resolutions as submitted by members one week before AGM whether approved by the PCC or not.
17.2 Would you agree that it is at the AGM for resolutions to be dealt with? The Constitution is silent on this.
18. Mission trips overseas
18.1 Can you provide details of missions trips overseas where ASC is involved in 2011 and 2012?
18.2 Please give details of financial incurred for such missions and the amount paid by ASC if any.
18.3 Please provide detailed reports of such mission trips overseas for both years.
18.4 Who were the people from the ASC going to such trips?
19. Daily Express advertisement on 22nd December, 2012
19.1 Why only ASC and KK sister churches were advertised when the whole of Sabah should be given publicity?
19.2 Who pay for the cost of advertisement?
19.3 Who authorize the said advertisement?
20. Cafeteria at the Wisma Anglican
20.1 Is the cafeteria only to cater for people who work and study in Wisma Anglican?
20.2 Is it properly licenced as a food outlet?
20.3 While the perception of food business on Sunday fortnightly at the lobby and foyer is questionable, what does
ASC benefit in term of financial return for overheads etc? The losses and gains are reported in the ADOS account.
20.4 Is there any subsidy for the food sold on Sunday? If so, how is this done?
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21. Flooding of ASC compound
ReplyDelete21.1 there have been reported flooding in ASC ground, is there any improvement recently?
21.2 What other measures are considered to resolve the flooding problem?
22. Police personnel inside the church during ASC ordination service
22.1 What is the purpose of asking some Police personnel in the Ordination service on 29 August, 2012?
22.2 The Rector blamed me for the Police inside the church service, and this blame is evil and uncalled for.
22.3 Who had actually lodged a Police Report to get the Police inside? Why nobody owned up?
22.4 Who paid for the Police service?
22.5 Is this a desecration of the church when the people anointed by God cannot trust God but unbelievers?
23. Deanery of ASC
23.1 The Deanery was consecrated for the sole use of the Dean of the ASC in April, 2000, and it is dedicated for a Godly purpose, is it another desecration of the Deanery when the Deanery was occupied for almost 6 years since 2006 by an unqualified priest?
23.2 What is the protocol of the decorum of the Deanery when it is abused by non other by the acting dean cum Bishop?
23.3 To draw an analogy, what is the protocol of the decorum of the Bishop Lodge if it is occupied by a junior priest?
23.4 How much money was spent by ASC to renovate the Deanery only to be occupied by one who is not the Dean?
23.5 The Deanery was finally vacated on 7th December, 2012 by the illegal occupier after much criticism in the blog since late 2011 and other avenues and is this not a defiance of an anointed servant supposed to be servant of God?
23.6 Who had approved the use of the Deanery ? If it was approved by the PCC of ASC, please show us the minute?
23.7 Is there any suggestion as to how the desecration of the Deanery be restored for the new Dean in a week time?
23.8 How much unnecessary cost to renovate the Deanery in view of the fact that the incoming Dean is only a temporary measure?
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24. Desecration of the All Saints’ Cathedral
ReplyDelete24.1 Since AVCF assumed his position in Kota Kinabalu as the .Bishop of Sabah, ASC church building was heavily renovated and refurbished at tremendous costs including destroying the two original rock Altars once consecrated for His Holiness. It was done for personal gain and now reap the Wrath of God in the ASC and ADOS. The present crisis in ADOS or BISHOPGATE had been brewing since 2006 as anyone who raised questions and comments not in the Bishop’s favour, would be asked to leave the church.. It was revealed that there was a suggestion to ex-communicate the five members who lodge legitimate issues against the Bishop to the Anglican Province in South East Asia Bishop did say something like that “If you don’t like ………….”, but he was stopped by the Spirit of God to complete his sentence.
24.2 The church premises has been used for AGM each year and in 2011 AGM, the Chairman/ Bishop snatched the microphone of the Honorary Treasurer to stop her to deliver her Annual Financial Report and the Chairman even campaigned against her to be re-elected but she was retained for 2011 and 2012. This devilish incident was not reported in the Minute of the AGM 2011. Can such thing prevails in the sacred church ?
24.3 In the Diocesan Synod held at the said venue on 30th August, 2012, the Chairman/ Bishop cried crocodile tears because he had to lie at the Synod meeting where frauds were reported in the financial statements of the ADOS.
24.4 In the sudden (24th hours notice) dialogue held at the church premises at the night of 15th October, 2012, the top clergies including the three Bishop AVCF, assistant Bishop Melter J Tais and assist John Yeo (total silence) had to put on a lying show when many questions were raised. The lies by Bishop AVCF, Bishop Melter J. Tais and others including the Diocesan Chancellor, Diocesan Treasurer, the Principal of All Saints Anglican Academy (now resigned) were all recorded in video available at thethruthasc.wordpress.com.
24.5 More lies have been emerging in ASC and ADOS up to date. The Bishop and Rector could not confirm how and who brought the Police to the ordination service. Could it be the devil within the Bishop asking the Police to create an image of chaos in ASC?
24.6 How would Archbishop Datuk Bolly Lapok be requested to deal with this desecration of ASC and ADOS?
NB: These questions are not exhaustive.
Please provide full and true answers otherwise the consequences are horrible and issues for the Police to handle.
The financial matters of 2012 would be another set of questions and comments provided it is given out at least one week before the AGM 2013.
I am doing this as a member and beneficiaries of ASC and ADOS and as a member of the Body of Christ which has been tormented by the misdeeds of the Bishop of Sabah and his cronies.
This very important duty is the responsibility of all irrespective of the position of anyone in Christ’s Church.
Don’t say that I have no right to do this. If that is so, who has the right to put the House of God in proper ORDER?
Who say I don’t own the Church? If that is so, who own the Church? Definitely it is not AVCF who owns the Church as he is too fickle minded to attend to the crisis started by him and BISHOPGATE is unstoppable unless the little David steps in.
One is a majority in action when the rest remains anonymous.
Joshua Y. C. Kong
All questions are available here :- http://bishopgateinanglicansabah.blogspot.com/2013/01/questionscomments-for-asc-2013.html
Additional items:-
ReplyDelete25. Kokol Prayer Summit
25.1 This is also a joint project of ASC and please give details on the project as those given to the Synod.
25.2 How would this KPS be sustained ?
25.3 If not in use, how would ASC and ADOS recover the capital outlay or become a white elephant?
26. All Saints’ Anglican Academy ASAA
26.1 As ASC contributed almost a Million Ringgit since it was set up, please present a full report of ASAA .
26.2 As ASAA was transferred to ADOS, please show us the minute of PCC for this direction.
26.3 ASC also contributed to ASAA in 2010 of RM167,000, please show how this money has been spent.
26.4 Mary Vun has been principal of ASAA, please show us her certificates to qualify her as a principal.
26.5 Please show proof of her remuneration Mary Vun got from ASAA.
27. Deanery
27.1 Please indicate the rental value of the Deanery fully furnished.
27.2 Please provide the inventory of all the furnishing of the Deanery since it was in use in 2000, and 2006 after it was renovated.
27.3 Please indicate if the Deanery is to be renovated and how much is to be incurred now?
28. Souvenir programme/magazine of ASC centenarian year.
28.1 What happen to the unsold stock of the magazine?
28.2 What is the loss for this publication?
28.3 Why is it not available for sale in church even at a reduced price?
28.4 Please prepare a full report for this failed project.
Can we share these question session to 14 persons and each choose two questions in case no replies from AVCF, YTC and CSF?
ReplyDeleteAny volunteers now?
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Joshua Y. C. Kong, P. O Box 11923, 88821 Kota Kinabalu, Sabah jknow823@gmail.com 013-8394513
5 January, 2013
The Acting Dean / Dean,
All Saints’ Cathedral,
Kota Kinabalu. Cc : YTC and CSF RL pastorchak@hotmail.com
Dear Rev Acting Dean / Dean,
Re: Prior Questions / comments for All Saints’ Cathedral to be presented at the AGM on 24th March 2013.[Fourth 4 portion]
Like Jesus did in the wine miracle for a marriage and the best wine came at the end.
I hope this is the last portion and the best for you to answer now.
This issue of Anglican Kindergarten was raised at one of the AGM at ASC with you, but you brushed it aside as quickly as I asked this question. You asked me to show proof of what you wrote and what you said, which I did not have at that time. I still don’t have the proof you wanted for act you you did as it is normal with you.
The other is the Kokol Prayer Summit with more loose ends for you now. Don’t run away, socalled ‘Bishop’.
But these are nagging questions for all and asked repeatedly but no proper answer.
So I am going to deal with these two issues in great details and don’t ask any one especially YTC (just slightly more than one year in ASC) and the Honorary Treasurer once you rejected her re-election.
Do it yourself now without fail as you are on the way OUT. These issues are so valid.
29. ASC’s Anglican Kindergarten closure
29.1 Why is there a need to close down the kindergarten?.
29.2 . It give us an identity because it is right in the city center, and you care not.
29.3 . We can send our children to our own Kindergarten instead of to others kindergarten.
29.4 It is also an evangelist place to encourage non-christian to attend our Sunday school. Why not?
29.5 they will be taught simple Christian song and pray.. Why this is bad?
29.6 For Anglicans children when they grow up they will be proud that they study in ASC kindergarten during their early year. I remember you must be extremely jealous of the young children who enjoy in AK as your own miserable poor childhood in the “birthday suit” swimming in the river by your house as you shared in the pulpit regularly.
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29.7 . Why is it that Basel Church can establish kindergarten in almost every large housing area in KK, even in majority non-Christian area like Putatan and every small townships around KK up to Tuaran, Tamparuli, and Papar. hope you can add into one of your item.
ReplyDelete29.8 I had been the honorary Treasurer for a few years all done FOC except an annual dinner, I had seen how AK was run by dedicated teachers, did not you broke their hearts and possibly their spirits with the so sudden closure without notice, and you call yourself a “BISHOP” and sort of recalcitrant ‘shepherd’, you must give full report of that prerogative decision and be held solely responsible for the demise of AK.
29.9 I want you to clear this grievous doubt that “you closed the AK so that your wife could be made the Principal of ASAA which is obvious more prestigious than the AK” and that sound so ‘fickle’ or ‘mad’ as the ASAA and AK could be operated simultaneously.
29.10 AK was a few decades old and fully licensed and approved by society as other non Christians sent their children to the AK and you started ASAA without any LICENCE especially after it was moved to ADOS. So as a “Bishop”, you enjoy your prerogative power as exercised to do a;; the illegal things to shame the Christian community in Sabah and beyond. Sue me now, if you like. You would imagine if those parents had to find kindergartens for their children to go in the mid year of the sudden closure without proper and adequate notice.
29.11 It was not a financial issue that AK was closed as it was sort of self financing and if not it could not have lasted for decades. The ASAA needed more money from ASC and ADOS plus sucking those children to keep it alive. So what say you and put this in a report to justify the continuation of ASAA after your “unqualified wife” as ex principal who declared she was drawing a primary school salary when it is doubtful if this statement is true. Show us the complete records now.
29.12 If it is the quality or type of students in AK, that can be managed as the prerogative power is there for you to use. Why did not you do it YOUR WAY rather than close it like you did it sort of illegally?
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30 Kokol Prayer Summit a white elephant now???
ReplyDelete30.1 Please exhibit the Occupation Certificate (OC) for the Sabah Anglicans to see possibly in the website. If you don’t do it within two weeks, I will post it in a website.
30.2 Is the OC issued in the name of ADOS? Does ADOS own the KPS of almost RM9m?
30.3 When you wanted to raise millions of Ringgit so urgently like there is no TOMMOROW as soon as you became “Bishop of Sabah” and came to ASC as acting Dean, the impression given was that the project was to belong to ADOS? Please present a full report on this dubious debacle and nightmare.
30.4 Wasn’t this an illegal project as dedicated by you as Bishop in 2010? The Diocesan Synod and Standing Committee was not aware or bluffed by you of what was going on except a member raised the issue in the Diocesan Synod 2010.
30.5 Please tell us what is the next step on the KPS?
I need not write any more except await your replies to 30 questions so far from me.
You know what to do if you cannot reply or don’t want to reply.
How much financially you had been responsible for 6 years as Bishop? Give us your report.
Thank you,
Joshua Y. C. Kong
“Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you . Always give yourself fully to the work of the Lord, because you know your labor in the Lord is not in vain” 1Corinthian 15:58
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ReplyDeleteMember,
I think ASC is getting messier because of AVCF since missing in action in 2012 AGM.
YTC only came to ASC in late 2011 and now he is gone for good in January, 2013 making it precariously for the ADOS and ASC and also the socalled commissary and the mediator who would find themselves helpless and useless to stop the crisis which I call BISHOPGATE because of AVCF also as a Dean who had been allowed to mess up ASC and ADOS for too long and yet the Archbishop BL is unprepared to do justice for ASC and ADOS. I think 38 of the 40 culpable issues of the famous 5 are about ASC.
Those 38 issues are hidden in falsehood and cannot be exposed and so how to solve the crisis in both ASC and ADOS linked in some ways.
As long as AVCF remains the Bishop, the BISHOPGATE would continue even with remote control to the total destruction of ADOS, and it is just waiting to happen now.
Once AVCF resigns and be accountable, then there is a chance for a quick solution in ADOS.
Since the recalcitrant AVCF would stay his stance of NO answers, you think YTC dares to risk his transfer even to a much small church in Sandakan?
Dean Chak would simple say “Don’t know”.
I dont want YTC to attend the AGM but the once acting Dean to attend the AGM to face the music and he cannot run away even in the midst of his Sabbatical leave and he should remain in Sabah.
Dear brothers and sisters in Christ,
ReplyDeleteWho can provide some financial costs etc to all my 30 questions to ASC as listed here
Then we can also itemise all the costs of maintaining the recalcitrant Bishop AVCF.
So it is going to be tens of millions of Ringgit in 6 years of raping everything in AVCF's path claiming the "anointed" one of God can do all things with the socalled prerogative and whatnots.
Then we can move a motion in ASC AGM on 24th March, 2013 to demand a total refund of the losses suffered by members and beneficiaries for 6 years and more including those years in St Patrick's Church and Church of Good Samaritan. We will allow a minimal salaries for the much abused service of AVCF.
Joshua
ReplyDeleteMove the motion ---
Do it now together as this is another way to "lynch" the recalcitrant, unrepentant, not showing remorseful and mad AVCF and his gang.
http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=4364184221856948271#editor/target=post;postID=1216180806537027384
ReplyDelete11 motions for ASC AGM on 24th March, 2013